Sunday, April 22, 2012

The Lill Family: South Australia

I am the adopted daughter of Joyce Constance Lill (Capon). Growing up I lived with my Grandfather (F.W.R. Lill) and grandmother (Dulcie Florence Dayley - Daley). Mum and Dad (Harold William Capon).

What I find totally amazing from just today - the 22nd of April 2012 - someone remarked on me saying 'chimley' instead of 'chimney'. It was the first time I have ever been picked up on it. Not that talking about chimneys is a popular topic. I have always said it. This history has solved it for me, as I have always said that I have a 'different' accent to many Australians - I always put it down to living with grandparents who were born in the 1870s. I didn't know exactly how accurate this was!

I looked up online and chimLEY pronounciation of chimney in Dorset slang IS chimley. Since that is where the Lills came from, that is the most likely source of my accent!!!!! Amazing!

For those who are interested in Charlotte Lill (nee Scammell) the following information was obtained by Syd Welsh of Ballarat at the LDL library there.
Charlotte was the daughter of William Scammell and Hannah Brewer who were married on 23rd Jan 1816 in Ringwood Hampshire. Charlotte was born on 9th Mar. 1820 in Hampshire. She married Charles Inverlyn Lill on 17th Jun. 1848 in Dorset. Charles was a builder, carpenter and cabinetmaker by trade.

They migrated to Victoria, Australia on the "Maria Hay" departing England on the 27th Apr. 1854 and arriving in Geelong on the 23rd July 1854. They moved to South Australia by an overland route in 1866 and settled in Adelaide. Their religion is listed as Baptist, C/E. Charlotte died on 3rd Jul 1905 in Norwood, South Aus., and was buried at Payneham. Charles died on 3rd Feb. 1883 in Adelaide and is buried at WIC (sic) (THIS COULD BE West Terrace Cemetery) South Aus.

Their children were as follows:
-William Russon Lill, born 21st Apr. 1853, Dorchester; married Elizabeth Gillard Nation. (GREAT grandfather, GREAT grandmother)
-Charles Frederick Lill, born 7th Feb. 1857, Victoria; married Georgina Rose.
-Charlotte Frances Lill, born 9th Dec. 1859, Victoria; married name Fox; died 2nd Mar. 1928.
-Lavinia Lill, born 12th Aug. 1861, Victoria; married name Nation; died 22nd July 1944.

William Russon Lill married Elizabeth on 25th Oct. 1877 in Magill, South Aus. Elizabeth was the daughter of Samuel Nation and Harriet G. Warren and was born on 9th Mar 1853 in Taunton, Somerset, England. She arrived in South Aus., aboard the "Telegraph" on 23rd Jan. 1855. William is listed as a builder, contracter. They are listed as Baptists and as living at Magill, Maylands. William died on 10th Apr. 1913 at Maylands, South Aus., and is buried at Payneham, South Aus. Elizabeth died on 31st Mar 1945 at Grange (620 Seaview Rd), South Aus., and is buried at Payneham.

Their children were:
-Frederick William Russon Lill, born 29th Dec. 1878; died 22nd Jan 1962. (grandpa)
-Percy Warren Lill, born 10th Dec. 1883; died 4th Dec. 1970. (Uncle Percy - Lived in Renmark - 13th St?) I knew both, he and wife, Mary - and much of the Lill family in that area.
-Angus Cuthbert Lill, born 15th Jul. 1889; died 29th Feb. 1956. (Uncle Angus - Lived in 624 Seaview Rd. I only have dim memories of him. His son, Bill (William) died only this month. He has 2 sons (Richard, David). His wife, Auntie Bet died a few years back.

Charles Frederick Lill was a carpenter, land agent and auctioneer by trade. He and Georgina are listed as living at Stepney, Norwood, Hawthorn. Charles died on 2nd Jun. 1922 Adelaide, South Aus., and is buried at Payneham. They are listed as having one son, Alick Gladstone Lill, born 10th May 1904. (Uncle Alick is of the Norwood football fame - he's listed on Wikipedia - he won Magarey medal. You'll also find John Lill on Wikipedia - he is Uncle Alick's son - associated with football, cricket, and Melbourne Cricket Grounds.)


Charlotte's sister Ann was also living in South Australia at Port Elliot. She married a Samuel Travers and had a son Stephen.

Grandpa's (F.W.R. Lill) children were Dulcie Elizabeth Lill, Gladys Eleanor Lill, Joyce Constance Lill. All are now deceased.
Auntie Dulcie had no children, she was married to Walter (Wally) Williamson (You'll also find him on Wikipedia - famous footballer and one of the reasons we saw a lot of Uncle Alick - they would get together for footy parties).
Auntie Glad married Ronald Johns of Henley Beach. They had 2 children (Margo and Ceddie - Margurite (sp?) and Cederic) Ced Johns worked in New Guinea while it was developing. Both died in the very late 1990s.) Margo died before her mother, which was sad, and Ceddie not long after her death.
My mother married Harold William Capon - previously of Stirling/Crafers area - Born in Camberwell, London. She also was married previously.

2 comments:

Unknown said...

Hi Jill,
I have just come across you blog. I am holidaying on the Murray and have been told the W Lill and son built the Murray Bridge Railway station in the 1880's. Did you know about this.
I can remember visiting you as a teenager (I was born 1946). My mum, Lola is still living in Renmark age 98.
peterjamesroy@gmail.com
Peter Roy

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